Phillies catcher prospect Sebastian Valle

C Sebastian Valle is the Phillies top position player prospect...

After reviewing the top 15 hitters and pitchers in the organization, it’s time to combine them into an overall top 30. However, it’s not quite a 15/15 split; there will be 16 pitchers. There is a lot of talent in the lower levels, but it’s still going to be a few years before those guys could make an impact for the Phillies, or more accurately, become trade bait. With each player, I’ll include a 2012 outlook which will include where I think that player will start the season.

30. Joe Savery, 6’3 215 LHRP, high-A/AA/AAA/MLB, 26 (1.50 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, 8.0 H/9, 1.5 BB/9, 10.2 K/9)

2012 Outlook: After Savery’s incredible rebound season in 2011, he should have a chance to compete for a spot in the Phillies‘ bullpen in spring training. Jonathan Papelbon, Antonio Bastardo, Michael Stutes, Dontrelle Willis, Kyle Kendrick and if healthy, Jose Contreras should all have spots open when the team comes north. That would leave one more spot, and he’ll be competing with Phillippe Aumont, Justin De Fratus, David Herndon and Michael Schwimer. He’ll likely start the season in AAA.

29. Cesar Hernandez, 2B, high-A, 21 (.268/.306/.333) 5’10, 160 S/R

2012 Outlook:
Hernandez struggled in Clearwater last year, and he’s still very young. He could repeat the level since no second baseman from Lakewood will demand at bats at a higher level, so there’s no rush in that regard. Last year, he was placed on the 40 man roster, so there may be some pressure to advance him through the system because it will burn his second option year.

28. Harold Martinez, 3B, short-season, 21 (.256/.357/.346) 6’3, 210 R/R

2012 Outlook: Martinez didn’t perform too well at Williamsport, but it’s possible he gets double jumped to Clearwater to be sure he doesn’t have to share third base at Lakewood with Maikel Franco. It’s not out of the ordinary at all for college hitters to go to high-A in their first pro year, but it could be risky for Martinez because he’s more raw than most college guys drafted as high as he was.

27.
Michael Schwimer, 6’8 240 RHRP, AAA/MLB, 26 (2.40 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 82.1 IP, 7.2 H/9, 3.2 BB/9, 11.2 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Like Savery, Schwimer should have a shot to earn a spot in the major league bullpen in spring training. There aren’t many openings, and he’ll have to pitch better than he did in the majors last year to earn it. It’s likely that he’ll go back to Lehigh Valley to start the year and get a chance if there are injuries.

26.
Kevin Walter, 6’5 215 RHSP, N/A, 19 (did not play)

2012 Outlook: Because he didn’t pitch at all in 2011, where Walter starts could be up in the air. The most likely option seems to be going back to extended spring training, especially if the missed time was injury related. He’s still really young, so it wouldn’t be a huge deal that he’s not in Lakewood yet. Hopefully he’s able to get into games at any level in 2012 and get back on track.

25. Adam Morgan, 6’1 195 LHSP, short-season, 2.01 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 53.2 IP, 7 H/9, 2.3 BB/9, 7.2 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Morgan didn’t get out of the New York Penn League last year, but he could just skip over Lakewood. It might be a bit aggressive, but they have a lot of young arms between the short season leagues and high-A, and a lot of them need to be in a rotation to get innings. As a third round pick, he should be good enough to handle high-A.

24. Ervis Manzanillo, 6’2 160 LHP, low-A, 20 (5.02 ERA, 1.56 WHIP, 118.1 IP, 8.7 H/9, 5.4 BB/, 8 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Manzanillo is another guy caught up in their lower level pitching depth. Because of his struggles, he could start 2012 back in Lakewood. At 20 years old, it wouldn’t be a big deal to repeat the level. If they wanted to accelerate his progress, they could move him to the bullpen, but there’s no reason to do that so quickly. While that may be his ultimate destination down the road, he could use the extra innings to work on his pitches.

23. Harold Garcia, 2B, AA, 25 (.300/.327/.480) 5’11, 190 S/R

2012 Outlook: He should be recovered from his injury and ready for spring training. Although he didn’t get much experience in AA before he got injured, he could advance to AAA to start the year. A lot of it will depend on what’s going on in AAA and high-A. If they want to move Cesar Hernandez up to AA, Garcia will be in AAA to make room. That would mean some minor league veterans would need to take on some other positions at Lehigh Valley.

22. Larry Greene, 1B, N/A, 19 (did not play) 6’2, 230 L/R

2012 Outlook: The Phillies usually don’t hold back high draft picks in extended spring training, but usually they also make their pro debut after signing. Greene is among a few high Phillies picks that didn’t get into game action in 2011. To compound the problem, he suffered an injury in the instructional league, so he could be a bit behind at this point. It wouldn’t be surprising for him to start in extended spring training, but he could always join Lakewood later if he shows he’s ready.

21. Roman Quinn, CF, N/A, 18 (did not play) 5’9, 165 S/R

2012 Outlook: Like Greene, Quinn doesn’t have a professional at bat. He’s on the raw side, so it seems like he’ll be headed to extended spring training. There’s also a bit of a numbers game at his position in the lower levels, no matter where he settles in. There’s probably no room in Lakewood’s outfield, and Tyler Greene, Gustavo Gonzalez and Mitch Walding are among the other shortstops in those levels of the organization.

20. Brian Pointer, COF, rookie, 20 (.278/.353/.503) 6’0, 190 L/L

2012 Outlook: Pointer had a very good showing in the GCL last year. For a high school draft pick, he’s a pretty polished bat, so it’s possible he could move ahead to Lakewood. With Aaron Altherr, Kyrell Hudson and Kelly Dugan likely bets to occupy Lakewood’s outfield, Pointer might have trouble finding a spot. They rotated four players in and out last year, so it is possible.

19. Leandro Castro, COF, high-A, 22 (.277/.304/.481) 5’11, 175 R/R

2012 Outlook: Castro was hitting well at Clearwater before he lost the second half of the season due to injury. Because of his aggressive nature at the plate, it might be best to get him some more at bats in high-A before testing him at a higher level. With Zach Collier’s suspension, he could fit in Clearwater’s outfield for two months and head up to Reading if he’s healthy and hitting. He could also just start in AA with a lack of corner outfield depth expected to be at that level.

18. Perci Garner, 6’3 225 RHSP, short-season, 23 (1.20 ERA, 1.27 WHIP, 30 IP, 8.7 H/9, 2.7 BB/9, 9 K/9)

2012 Outlook: It might be a risk to have Garner skip Lakewood due to his inexperience as an amateur and pro, but it might be necessary to accommodate other starters in the organization. If he’s healthy, his stuff should allow him to succeed though. His health is the most important thing. With only 34 innings in his career, it’s time for him to start developing.

17. Aaron Altherr, COF, short-season/low-A, 21 (.243/.291/.339) 6’5, 190 R/R

2012 Outlook: Altherr will head back to Lakewood where he struggled last year. It’s a make or break season for him. He can’t hit poorly and go back to Williamsport, and he’s going to have to sink or swim in low-A. The Phillies still love his tools, and now it’s time for those to translate to performance. As mentioned earlier, the Lakewood outfield will also include Dugan and Hudson, two more athletic players the organization is hoping can finally hit.

16. Ethan Stewart, 6’5 210 LHSP, rookie, 21 (3.62 ERA, 1.43 WHIP, 63.2 IP, 9.3 H/9, 3.8 BB/9, 8.5 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Stewart could head up to Lakewood to start the season, but it’s also possible that he’s held back in extended spring training for another year. Although he’s 21, he has such little experience that there shouldn’t be any rush for him to get to full season ball. Because he’s a smart pitcher, he could probably have success in low-A even if his stuff isn’t fully developed yet. They have enough pitching that it’s not a big deal if he’s not ready though.

15. Carlos Tocci, CF, N/A, 16 (did not play)

2012 Outlook: At 16 years old, it’s really early to think about Tocci’s destination. The Phillies are one of only a few teams left in the league that have an affiliate in the Venezuelan Summer League, but it’s not unheard of for even those teams to send Venezuelan players to the Dominican League just to get them out of the country. If he played well in instructs and has a good showing in spring training, he could even make it to the Gulf Coast League. Domingo Santana played in the GCL as a 16 year old, so it’s not uncommon.

14. Austin Wright, 6’4 235 LHSP, short-season/low-A, 22 (3.03 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, 68.1 IP, 7.8 K/9, 2.9 BB/9, 11.2 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Wright made it up to Lakewood last season in his pro debut and was even able to make seven starts. Although they only amounted to 33.2 innings, it should be enough for the Phillies to have confidence in him to handle Clearwater next season. He could be the breakout player of the 2011 draft with the progress he’s shown early in his career so far.

13. Tyler Greene, SS, rookie, 19 (.276/.386/.379) 6’2, 175 R/R

2012 Outlook: Greene will either stay in extended spring training and play for Williamsport eventually, or he could go right to Lakewood to start the season. He squeezed in 17 games and 70 plate appearances after signing last year, and that could be the difference between starting in spring training and being ready for Lakewood. What could keep him ticketed for Williamsport is Gustavo Gonzalez, another name to watch at shortstop. He’s two years older than Greene, so they might consider it a priority to get him to Lakewood first.

12. Julio Rodriguez, 6’4 195 RHSP, high-A, 21 (2.76 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, 156.2 IP, 5.9 H/9, 3.2 BB/9, 9.7 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Reading will be the big test in his career. If his deceptive delivery and average stuff works, his prospect stock will rise dramatically. It’s always possible that he’s still able to improve his fastball too. If he struggles, his biggest problem might be the home run ball. He’s a fly ball pitcher, and Reading is a hitters park. If he succeeds here, there probably won’t be any more doubt that he’s a legitimate prospect.

11. Lisalberto Bonilla, 6’1 164 RHSP, low-A, 21 (2.80 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 106 IP, 7.7 H/9, 2.5 BB/9, 8.1 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Last year, Bonilla started the season in the bullpen before transitioning into the rotation to carefully maintain his innings count. That may be unnecessary this season since he’ll be closer to being able to handle a full workload. He should be stronger and more durable this season, and that’ll allow him to get in the neighborhood of 150 innings if everything goes well.

10. Jiwan James, CF, high-A, 22 (.268/.327/.363) 6’4, 180 S/R

2012 Outlook: This is a big year for James. He remained in the Phillies organization after not being taken in the rule 5 draft. This will be his third full season as a position player, and it’s time to hit. For a player that should be able to make good contact, he hasn’t really hit for a high average and strikes out a lot. Hitting at Reading should help, but in his third year, if his tools don’t translate into success, they probably never will.

9. Justin De Fratus, 6’4 220 RHRP, AA/AAA/MLB, 24 (2.99 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 75.1 IP, 7.5 H/9, 3 BB/9, 11.8 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Like Savery and Schwimer, De Fratus should get a chance to compete for a spot in the bullpen in spring training. He’s major league ready, but since only two spots are expected to be available, it seems like he’ll go back to AAA until someone gets hurt.

8. Maikel Franco, 3B, short-season/low-A, 19 (.247/.318/.360) 6’1, 180 R/R

2012 Outlook: Franco performed too well at Williamsport to have to go back there again, but Harold Martinez didn’t exactly prove he’s ready for Clearwater. It’s possible that both end up in Lakewood where Mickey Morandini will have to find a way to make sure both are in the lineup every day. Martinez could play left field, but with Lakewood’s logjam in the outfield, there might not be room for him there either.

7. Brody Colvin, 6’3 195 RHSP, high-A, 21 (4.71 ERA, 1.48 WHIP, 116.2 IP, 10.1 H/9, 3.2 BB/9, 6 K/9)

2012 Outlook: There’s a lot of speculation that Colvin could repeat high-A, and he probably deserves to. As I’ve mentioned with a number of players on this list already, they have so many starters down there that he might just head to AA so Clearwater can use five new starters. Just performance wise, he should be back in high-A, but if he rebounds to be the pitcher people expected him to become after 2010, he’ll finish the season in AA.

6. Freddy Galvis, SS, AA/AAA, 22 (.278/.324/.392) 5’10, 170 S/R

2012 Outlook: With Jimmy Rollins locked up for a few more years, it seems unlikely that Galvis could ever be the Phillies‘ starting shortstop. If he proves his hitting is for real, he could have a bit of trade value to a team looking for a near major league ready shortstop with great defense. If the Phillies want him to be Rollins’ successor, he’ll have to spend some years on the bench as a utility player, and that could hinder his offensive development.

5.
Jonathan Pettibone, 6’5 200 RHSP, high-A, 21 (2.96 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 161 IP, 8.3 H/9, 1.9 BB/9, 6.4 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Pettibone will advance to AA. Of all the starters that will be arriving in Reading this year, he’ll probably be the first to reach the majors because of his polish. He entered last season as the least heralded starter in Clearwater’s rotation, but fans should be paying attention closely now.

4. Phillippe Aumont, 6’7 255 RHRP, AA/AAA, 23 (2.68 ERA, 1.29 WHIP, 53.2 IP, 7.4 H/9, 4.2 BB/9, 13.1 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Unlike the other relievers on this list, Aumont hasn’t made his ML debut and is a long shot at best to make the team out of spring training. If he stays healthy and continues pitching well, he’ll make his ML debut sometime this season.

3. Sebastian Valle, C, high-A, 21 (.284/.312/.394) 6’1, 170 R/R

2012 Outlook: Valle will advance to AA where he’ll face some challenges. More experienced pitchers will be able to exploit his glaring weakness at the plate, and he’s going to have to make adjustments. Hitting at Reading will help his power and not suppress it like at Clearwater.

2. Jesse Biddle, 6’4 225 LHSP, low-A, 20 (2.98 ERA, 1.28 WHIP, 133 IP, 7 H/9, 4.5 BB/9, 8.4 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Biddle will move up one level to Clearwater. His 133 innings last year are likely much more than he’s ever thrown, so the Phillies hope he worked diligently in the offseason to avoid the sophomore slump that Colvin experienced. The warm weather and heavy air are conducive to pitching, so he should be able to have a successful campaign.

1. Trevor May, 6’5 215 RHSP, high-A, 22 (3.63 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 151.1 IP, 7.2 H/9, 4 BB/9, 12.4 K/9)

2012 Outlook: Last time May moved up a level, he really struggled and had to be demoted again. It could take him some time to adjust again to Reading. He may start slowly, but fans should be patient because his stuff should eventually come through. I’m not making any comparisons here because May will never be as good as him, but AA is the level where Matt Moore went from effectively wild to having command of his great fastball and curveball. Perhaps May can do the same.

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Philadelphia Phillies logoRIP Andy Musser

Growing up in Northeastern/Central Pennsylvania it was a long haul to Philadelphia so it was not every day we were able to go see the Phillies play at the Vet.  Sitting at home we would catch the games on TV on WTAF 29, WPHL 17, and on Prism and on the radio it was WPPA 1360 AM from Pottsville. It was amazing being able to listen to Richie Ashburn, Harry Kalas, and Andy Musser talk about Steve Carlton and Larry Christenson throwing gems and Mike Schmidt and Greg Luzinski powering the Phillies offense by ringing the Liberty Bell.  That was how I followed my Phillies, which was how I came to love my team.  Whitey, Harry, and Andy. Whitey, Harry, and Andy.  Their voices brought home every game I could catch.  Their voices today bring so many memories of a youth growing up loving baseball.  Sadly now, all those voices have gone silent.  Sunday, January 22nd, Andy Musser passed away at his home.

Whitey, Harry, and Andy.  How blessed were we, as Phillies fans?  How blessed to have possibly the best broadcast crew in baseball, not only as announcers, but as wonderful human beings.  Each one of them whenever you met them was always kind and treated the fans as one of their family.  Each one of them brings memories of Tug jumping in the air after striking out Willie Wilson, Michael Jack Schmidt hitting his 500th home run, Bake McBride legging out a triple, Garry Maddox covering the outfield like no one else since Willie Mays retired. Each one of them really was part of your extended family because every night they were there on your television or on your radio.  You grew to love them. Though Andy got a lot of tough love because he wasn’t as affable as Harry and Whitey, as we look back now we all appreciate more what he brought to the broadcasts.

Andy Musser was the last of them and now he is gone.  Andy was a professional, through and through.  He was also a true gentleman.  It’s a rarity in this day and age to find people as genuinely nice as he was. He was also very talented, something many did not see or think about until much later after he was done.  Andy called Phillies games, Sixers games, Eagles football, and Villanova basketball.  He worked for pretty much every sporting team in Philadelphia in some shape or form but the Flyers and honestly, with how hard a worker he was he probably could have done their games too if they ever came calling.  In a state reeling from losing one sports legend in Joe Paterno, it now has to also come to terms with a fact that another big part of many of our childhoods is now gone as well.  It was not a good weekend for many in Pennsylvania.

The current television broadcast crew leaves a lot to be desired to most Phillies fans. The Phillies think it is because we were spoiled by Harry, Whitey, and Andy. Maybe they are right, but honestly if the current crew was even half as good I think we as Phillies fans would not have many gripes with them.  We know quality when we see and hear it.  This is why Larry Andersen and Scott Franzke are so well thought of by the fan base.  When you listen to them it takes you back to quality broadcasts of yesteryear.  They know when to talk, when to cheer, when to be critical, and when to be homers, and above all you can hear that they have fun and love calling the games.  Another positive is they don’t try to explain the game time and time again with the same euphemisms over and over again.  Every televised game, many of us understand more and more, just how good we really had it and even more, how much we miss Whitey, Harry, and Andy.

The Hamels Gambit

The Phillies came to terms with Cole Hamels on a one year contract avoiding arbitration.  Which is a high, but (and this but is as big as Alaska) many fans are now concerned.  Why an outsider might ask? Well because it is only a one year deal.  Cole Hamels may be the most important piece to the future of this team.  He is young, left-handed, and a stud pitcher and free agency is only months away.  Many fans think the Phillies are being stupid by not locking him up already, but honestly, it takes two to make a deal.  Both Hamels and the Phillies say they want to work out a long term contract.  It is going to be expensive, no matter how you look at it, Cliff Lee expensive.

The Phillies themselves are once again clamoring about money, which is nothing new and are also talking about the dreaded “luxury tax boogeyman”.  For a team with pretty deep pockets (don’t think this ownership group is as poor as they sometimes have claimed in the past) they have a deep seated fear of the luxury tax. I am not calling the Phillies owners cheap because they are not cheap anymore.  They have one of the higher payrolls in baseball and have not been afraid to spend like they used to, but they still do have some Scrooge in them even after being visited by the three spirits of the playoffs.

What this means is, something is going to have to give if they are to sign Hamels.  Many fans are now running scared that Hamels cannot be signed because you can’t have three $20 million pitchers.  What they do not see is that the Phillies in fact can.  Yes, I said the Phillies can afford it and without killing themselves on the luxury tax.  However as I also said something has to give.  Joe Blanton, Placido Polanco, Kyle Kendrick, Jose Contreras, Carlos Ruiz all come off the books after this season as they all can be free agents.  Of those I would expect Ruiz to be the one the Phillies most try to get to return because neither Rupp or Valle are close to being ready for the Majors, so the salaries of the others can go towards Cole.

A lot also depends on John Mayberry and Dom Brown as young controllable outfielders and how they both perform this season.  If both somehow perform well it may be huge for 2013 as Shane Victorino is also going to hit free agency and if he has a year like the last one he is going to be paid very well.  Also factoring in is Hunter Pence’s arbitration cases, both this year and next year.  If Pence wins this year and next, the Phillies may have to deal him for much younger and cheaper players to fill in holes.  With the bullpen being filled by younger and cheaper arms (besides Papelbon) with the up and coming young guns like Phillipe Aumont, Mike Stutes, Michael Schwimer, Justin De Fratus, Antonio Bastardo, and Joe Savery you will have some savings there.

The back end of the rotation will be cheaper as well with Blanton and Kendrick (and their price tags) possibly being replaced by Drew Naylor (long shot), Austin Hyatt, or maybe even one of the baby aces.  What I am trying to say is despite all the doom and gloom, the Phillies can make this work and keep Cole Hamels.  It will not be easy and it will create other holes and it is based upon provision that Cole is not lying when he says he really does want to stay here. One thing is for sure, every Phillies fan hopes Cole is taken care of sooner rather than later, each day that goes by really raises the apprehension level.

Ruben’s Cube

One thing I am puzzled about in this Phillies offseason is the Phillies failing to pursue players who can plug in holes they say they want to take care of.  Other than Papelbon (and his somewhat puzzling set the market big contract), the Phillies seem to be uninterested in upgrading what they say they want to upgrade.  They said they would like more production from thirdbase, finally coming out and saying they are willing to deal Polanco and upgrade the position, AFTER all of the upgrades were off the board.  They say they want a 5th outfielder with either a good power bat or excellent defense and speed for the bench.  We then see outfielder after outfielder coming off of the board that fit what they said they wanted, many of them signing minor league deals with low Major League salaries if they make the team.

Today for example Willie Harris signed a minor league deal with the Reds.  Harris had reported interest from the Phillies and he fit what the team said they needed.  He can play all three outfield positions, is very good defensively, has decent speed, a little power, can get on base and work counts, and as a bonus he can also play the infield.  For a 25th man that is a lot of positives, plus he would have come at a manageable salary.  If he makes the team the Reds are only going to be costing themselves $800K + $200K in incentives (if he reaches all of them) for a guy who other than one major down year in Washington has been a very valuable bench player the last few years.  Do the Phillies think Scott Podsednik is going to bounce back after an injury plagued year he spent in the minor leagues and be a valuable part of the team?  Are we going to be forced having Michael Martinez over-matched in at bat after at bat again?

It is what makes this so puzzling, especially with the injury woes the team has had over the last few years.  Right now Juan Pierre looks like the only available outfielder who comes anywhere close to what the team said it wants, and the Tigers, Braves, Nationals, Mets, Astros, and Rays were all looking at him so even he might be gone soon. A bigger question if he isn’t gone is will his price even be affordable to the team?  I am trying to get all the colors to match up on the cube, but I seem to be having trouble doing it.  I can only hope the Phillies know what they are doing twisting the cube and solve this puzzle.  A 25th guy is probably unimportant in the grand scheme on paper but when an injury or two happens, that 25th guy might be your 7th or 8th guy.  I’d rather have someone with some needed skills in the position, especially with this team’s injury history and age.

Young Available Help?

Maybe the Phillies want to try to get a bit younger and cheaper.  If so Podsednik sure does not fit the bill.  There are some players who may interest the Phillies and may be or are available out there.  I am not advocating any of these players but conjecturing and going on some rumors that the team may have some interest in these players.  For those old enough to remember, just play the In Search Of them in your head and then pretend Leonard Nimoy is narrating.

One is a very familiar name.  Michael Taylor is on the outside looking in with the A’s after Billy Beane’s almost insane run on extra outfield types.  Word out of Oakland is Taylor has been in the A’s doghouse for well over two years now and he has to really play his way onto the team.  I have heard the Phillies have some interest in bringing back the youngster if the A’s do want to move him.  Personally, I believe the A’s have stunted Taylor’s growth and though Taylor deserves some of the blame himself with an “bad attitude” he never seemed to have in the Phillies system and a rumored lack of conditioning. If he did come back I believe that the Phillies could fix him as he thrived in their system until his trade in the Roy Halladay deal and subsequent flip to Oakland for Brett Wallace. It would give them a younger controllable cheap three position capable outfielder to go with Brown and Mayberry in their outfield picture.

Something we do need if Victorino does leave as a free agent or if they do have to trade Pence (which I hope they don’t).  It is also an insurance policy if Mayberry does flop like some think he will as the starting leftfielder and Dom Brown shows he really cannot play left.  As someone said why would the Phillies have any interest in him when they have Brown?  Well because a team usually runs at least four to five outfielders.  You do need some inexpensive depth and the Lehigh outfield right now is Dom Brown, Rich Thompson, and…?

Another outfielder who may interest the Phillies and is definitely available is Kyle Hudson, who was released by the Orioles yesterday.  The Phillies would not be interested in Hudson for his power and batting prowess, but the youngster covers a lot of ground in the outfield, can work a count, plays all three positions, has extreme speed (scouts say only Xavier Avery in the Orioles system has more speed), and he is an excellent bunter according to scouting reports.  He was also one of Joe Jordan’s special picks when Jordan was with the Orioles.  Which is why I think the Phillies may have an interest in him, Jordan may put in a few words with Ruben Amaro and Scott Proefrock and the Phillies may just roll the dice, especially with Tyson Gillies and Jiwan James (the two outfielders in the system who are like Hudson, save more power) being far away from being able to contribute.  If Dewayne Wise can keep getting jobs in the Majors, it’s not hard to see that this young man may have a spot too.

Another name of interest but will make the stat types cringe is the Reds Juan Francisco.  Francisco is a thirdbaseman, but has also seen time in the outfield and can play firstbase.  He has a lot of raw power (he hit a sky rocket 500+ foot home run in his limited time last season), but he has holes in his game. His defense is not really good at third and he has a long swing that results in a lot of strike outs, and his plate discipline is not the greatest.  With Polanco on his last legs and the price of Hamels possibly making any acquisition for the position need to be on the cheap, would the Phillies be willing to trade for him?  Would the Reds actually be willing to deal him, even with the holes in his game currently?  After all our old friend Scott Rolen, who is the Reds thirdbaseman, is also on his last legs.  One thing is the Reds still have Todd Frazier as a young player who can play third, so they may be willing to deal Francisco, who may just be another Russell Branyan type.  They dealt their untouchable Yonder Alonso a few weeks ago, granted it was for a huge haul in pitcher Matt Latos, but Francisco also isn’t the prospect the Reds believed Alonso was.

Charlie Manuel once had Russell Branyan as a protégé in Cleveland and also later in Philly briefly, so he has experience working with that type of player, could he possibly work Francisco into a player who may help the team in some way?  I know that this type is exactly the opposite type of player the Phillies line up needs as well, but there are no young cheap and controllable high on base power/defense guys for third really available, guys like Juan Francisco are what you most likely can get without killing your team too bad and you really want to retain Hamels right? It’s unknown if the Phillies could even acquire him, and I am not even advocating that they will or should. What the heck though, it is the offseason and it does give us something to talk about, even if it’s not really wholly plausible, logical, or even really worth doing.  It is better than sitting around and discussing an announcer’s hair or the moaning about how 2011 was an abject failure.  It is time to move on since it is now 2012.

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If Andy at least doesn’t go deep into the playoffs to the NFC championship game, he’s out of here. If he has another season like the one that just transpired, he is definitly gonzo following next season’s final game regardless of any season ending winning streak.  Lurie will pay chuba dubs off for the final season of his contract and he’ll make it look like Andy is leaving on his own with a press conference retirement announcement.  To be honest and as a severe Reid critic, even I would have been shocked if Reid had left following last season.

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